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Poster: skybandit Date: Oct 23, 2010 12:55pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Puma Man

Although SOMEBODY owns the copyright on this piece of dogflop, Best Brains (the guys who do MST3K) can't locate them to get permission to use the film. Why don't we help them out by posting it here and letting them know who complains?
In all probability it's an "orphan," so it would remain up forever!

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 24, 2010 4:59am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

The MST3K crew featured The Pumaman in their 9th season.

The movie was registered for copyright, too.

Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: PA0000211724 / 1984-02-02
Title: The Pumaman / produced by A D M Films Department--Deantir ; directed by Alberto DeMartino.
Imprint: New York : Cinema Shares International Television, c1980.
Description: 2 videocassettes (100 min.) : sd., col. ; 3/4 in.
Notes: Title on description: The Puma Man.
Cast: Donald Pleasance, Walter George Alton, Sydne Rome.
Copyright Claimant: Indoamericana Film, Ltd.
Date of Creation: 1980
Date of Publication: 1980-02-10
Authorship on Application: Indoamericana Film, Ltd., employer for hire.
Previous Registration: Place of first publication stated on appl.: Italy.
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.

Names: DeMartino, Alberto
ADM Films Department--Deantir
Indoamericana Film, Ltd.


This post was modified by billbarstad on 2010-10-24 11:59:12

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Poster: skybandit Date: Oct 24, 2010 5:40am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

Yes, they used this in one of their episodes, but they can't LOCATE these Indoamerican people to get permission to use it AGAIN in a DVD release, hence my suspicion that it's an orphan work.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 24, 2010 5:52am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

It's great that they're finally doing that for films for which they only got the rights for a few years. Are you suggesting that IA hosts the movie until they get a takedown notice, and use that to locate the copyright owners for Best Brains, putting IA on the spot instead of Best Brains? I think Best Brains should just hire a copyright lawyer.

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Poster: skybandit Date: Oct 24, 2010 7:02am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

I'm sure Best Brains and/or Rhino has such a lawyer, and they've STILL put out the call for fans to help them find the owners. If they put something out for SALE and they get a C&D they're in VERY serious trouble, since they have to recall their discs. Toho did that to them over collection X. If the Archive gets a C&D, it's business as usual, since the Archive's not for profit. Since it looks like Puma Man is an orphan, I'm actually suggesting we put it up DESPITE the copyright notice and let everyone enjoy the MOST inept attempt at superheroics to ever stain a reel of film. If I owned the copyright to this stinkburger, I wouldn't admit it either! :)

This post was modified by skybandit on 2010-10-24 14:02:06

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 24, 2010 7:43am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

Assuming IA will go for it, I wonder how effective it would be. I've run across dozens of films here of questionable public domain status. The most blatant of them I flag, and sometimes they are removed. Too many remain. Some of these films have been here for years. I'm a copyright novice at best, but I suspect I've seen only the tip of the proverbial iceberg. A dog like The Pumaman, apparently in copyright limbo, could be posted, and likely would remain indefinitely assuming no one flags it and IA forgets the deal. Seems an iffy proposition at best.

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Poster: Tom Blumenthal Date: Oct 24, 2010 8:20am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

please elaborate. i don't understand the context of your comment. are you like policing this site for copyright compliance?

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Oct 24, 2010 8:31am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

When I run across films that I can prove are under copyright, I let IA know about them. I don't go looking for them. I run across them in my own browsing and research.

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Poster: skybandit Date: Oct 24, 2010 3:15pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

As is right and proper. We all must keep our eyes open for copyright violations, the vast majority of which are simply out of ignorance. Billy's just being nice by not calling me a conniving sleazebag, which I freely admit to being in this case. Sorry, but I LOVES my MST, and wish I could do more for them than trying to con the good folks here into helping them out.

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Oct 24, 2010 1:37am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Puma Man

MST3K did do a show on this and I don't think they would have done it without getting the go-ahead.